Tuesday, October 5, 2010

Tolerants ?

I have always found strange that the rest of the world considers the Dutch being a tolerant people. In themes such as prostitution, homosexuality and drugs I would say "yes". Although many Dutch men prefer having  foreign women (of all races and backgrounds) as life partners, I think as a nation they are definitely not fond of most groups of foreigners, with few exceptions. Why do I have these perceptions ?  Check this research I have found on blog deepbrazil.com published today. Eye opening.

7 comments:

Beth Blue said...

I can only agree with you...I live in Holland long enough (16 yrs.) to know that. In the first years, and specially back then before 9.11, I was fooled by this so called Dutch tolerance. Later I learned it was indifference, and nowadays it simply has become xenophoby (don´t even get me started on Geert Wilders).

For the Dutch readers: no, there is no paradise on earth (Brazil isnt my idea of paradise either) but it is quite scary when I look around these days. Here, in Europe, America, everywhere...

Anita said...

Thanks Beth for your view on that !

Efrutik said...

It's so conflicting indeed. When I look at the Netherlands and then read articles, be it on a political or a cultural topic, it makes for such a contradictory picture. So France and Turkey are the most intolerant in terms of Europe then according to the survey.

I was surprised to see both Ethiopia and Russia though not too far apart on this, weird. But then again I can only talk about the xenophobic attitudes in Russia from personal life experience.

Is there an explanation or analysis of this anywhere by any chance?

Thank you for posting Anita!

mub said...

You know, I read and hear about how "tolerant" this country is but I don't -feel- it. If you don't fit into a little specific box you don't really have a place here and can feel excluded. I think tolerance (for me) would lead to more inclusions, even of the people who might not fit into the "normal" box.

Anita said...

Mub, I was teased (a lot), I was ridicularized, I was mocked, I was doubted about my intelectual capabilities/loyalty, treated like invisible in parties, etc.. A positive result of all that is that I became less judgemental in life and more open to minorities.

Line said...

Freedom and tolerance in Holland is a myth cultivated for years.
It is funny because that is exactly what we hear before moving here: the Dutch freedom, tolerance and ability to accept and fully integrate with other cultures.
I live in Holland for 2 years only, and I already can see that the Netherlands is not so tolerant, that not many people are happy with the issue with drugs and prostitution in this country. Rules regarding immigration are becoming strict (if not already), and these changes are very obvious to the eyes of anyone who wants to see it.
I see how I am treated differently at work, and to be able to acquire some respect here I had to do much more than "only" my best. Like the Brazilian saying, “I had to kill a lion everyday”. The funniest is that here in my company everybody wants to know when I am going to learn Dutch, but nobody asks these same questions to my Scottish and English colleagues, for instance. It is very obvious that not all immigrants here are considered immigrants “per se”, if you know what I mean. There is a very clear racial-base distinction.

Anita said...

Line: the Dutch are pleased and honoured with some immigrants. Others, they consider to be a discomfort and heavy load. Brazilians puzzle them. Obrigada pela visita !!